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其實dc可唔可以做non dia
即係航空公司都有廉航
Cloud都有DO Linode
點解DC唔可以有no frills 既
share bandwidth咪share bandwidth
做多點QoS?
佢哋買 Wholesale Bandwidth
量越大單價越平
例如我舉個例子,NTT 要 100Mbps 要比 1000 美金
10Gbps 都係 二三千美金
買越多,單價越低
所以我好奇會唔會有廉租型DC
可能只係server room grade
嗰啲你要自己拉線喎
好似我喺 Mega-i 隻櫃咁
我諗好多人想放唔係mission critical既機、
@licson 老大我諗我部R610到左,裝滿晒HDD同ESXi cpanel後就會扔過嚟
你地d 1U機幾多ram
轉用ssd
Me 64
有同事叫hugo? 😂
打爆佢
唔好諗幾多先啱啱好
agger
always accidents happen
係機都會死架啦
$$$$$$$$$
me poor
you guys rucj
咁你一筆過加ram同分開加 條數咪一樣
128
用swag冇煩惱
swagger👍
咁我打爆晒先寄俾老大
yes
其實你部機有咩用
自己用
順便賣hosting
我會放個Mac VM係上面
1蚊hosting😂
有d freelance job
個老闆用GoDaddy 做hosting慢到hihi
佢地又唔想用AWS DO
咁我咪自己嚟
因為窮呀屌佢個西?
[photo](media:AgADBQADN6gxGyA10FbXb2JK6g64ZsSr1jIABEH7h1Fv84XIzdEAAgI@telegram)
點解唔幫襯 @AgentCC
use linode lor
godaddy 除左買 domain 真係狗也不屌
買domain都係
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連aws host website都嫌貴....
因為佢唔識 @agentcc 囉。
domain都唔屌GoDaddy la
我轉晒用namecheap...
.org一年幾錢?
其實我覺得個客唔識…
想買隻 24U 又有 800 深嘅機櫃
好難搵
rich
我買係想自己用嚟行d Linux 以外os
咁買個 bluehost 俾佢
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各有利弊
同埋
我訓緊覺🤧😷
臭敏感
個西係自己砌
sad
香港D空氣真係不了
想多點嘢自己control
咁自己搞of course better
同埋有部server 係it狗的浪漫(好似係)
agger
你有未
Agger 2
擺明未啦
730皮3
點買
咁除非個客好chur先同佢aws裝cpanel囉
我仲爭緊咭數
有隻櫃有幾條線做BGP先好玩
我係plesk fans
plesk好用
好用過垃圾cpanel
都係訓唔好傾計住,個鼻好塞
都係個句
係睇個客的需求
唔係硬推個人喜好
行esxi之嘛…咪一個VM cpanel一個plesk
Not agger , 而加乜都cloud
利申:用緊Google cloud
硬件好快outdate
Agger
rich
ok
gcp真係好撚貴
佢個ssh又麻煩
擁有實體server係it狗的浪漫?
public poll

Agger
▫️ 0%

Disagger
▫️ 0%

👥 Nobody voted so far.
講個笑話,我公司集體migrate 去Azure
extremely expensive
哈哈哈哈哈哈哈哈哈哈哈哈哈哈哈哈哈哈哈哈
不過我唔係IT
所以其實wfc
我想要條出海快既專線多d
做咩又tag佢😂
認真
cloud我都鍾意
只係想過下有部server既癮
我自己都叫大家用gdrive無限都唔好用NAS
me no have
sad
不過我覺得煩既係
DO LN support好慢
作為一個programmer , 一部laptop走天涯最型
azure個堆要有人即刻attend你
$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
其實呢
?
就算係ol都係一部laptop走天涯…
唔係得Developer
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做business都係一部laptop走天涯架喇。
我公司hotdesk更加要袋住部死人你老母ThinkPad返工放工
又係wor
要去邊度嘅專線啊 速度呢? 有冇話要特別低 latency 之類
我隨口up, 我比唔起錢, 唔洗理我
豐儉由人喎
國際專線 平野由 6000 蚊起
台灣/美國, 不過我搬左出黎住上網得6mb冇得諗
都國際專線攞 Last Mile 比多少少錢可以解決
6000....
幾多mb
STM-1
155Mbps
ok喎
但係淨係講緊條線去到外國
😂不過算啦 我都係比唔起
到左外國你仲要駁野
果邊有接頭人咪得
嗰度又第二筆錢呢
[photo](media:AgADBQADLKgxG0NP2Fbn05LaFsJ5ycWh1jIABGGTRe1JrGOSOdEAAgI@telegram)
有D咩要報價 比個電話我丫~
家居上網受唔受?
[sticker](media:AAQFABMcp9AyAAS0TslN60Vd0MEpAAIC@telegram)
More
係咪可以扮sales狗係各大吹水台sell plan
淨係貼張證出黎,然後講一句,有D咩優惠都可以介紹返
有 HKT DIA BGP
BGP
幾多錢 1M
信封嚟?
AS4515 嗰啲
望落又似喎
唔好意思丫先生,我地呢度唔係做上網既,不如我轉個電話去比個女同事介紹返相關優惠比先生你丫
依家 DIA 唔係上網咩
你好快啲話比我聽 BGP DIA 單價幾多 1M 好喎
[photo](media:AgADBQADLagxG0NP2FaLrkBJ5MFQWp9F1jIABNrzBGAY-EOO0U0CAAEC@telegram)
等我用個傻豬豬去裝住佢先
先生Sales call center係樓下
[photo](media:AgADBQADLqgxG0NP2FZJm7Ln0BQXk6VK1TIABJ19cmqc2hXGr0wCAAEC@telegram)
正唔正
係咪即刻濕左
唔正
亂葬崗
我估呢D cable debt
都積左六年
除左有強迫症d日日汁, 唔係好快亂番
here(
now badge are mostly in portrait
i worked few company 99% are vetical badge....
only SG Gov use landscape format badge
[photo](media:AgADBQADMKgxG0NP2FZP7u0UizAAAaZjUdUyAASQeJqw9OBAISNPAgABAg@telegram)
新加坡🇸🇬個邊既BGP,今日不停up down, 有無人睇得明呢個Log? 我都唔知咩事
其實我遲下都要執,不過係執USB櫃
對家要 reset session
佢 reset 完你都要
可以一試
主要係因為其中一邊傻傻地
我前日都有咁樣既情況
[photo](media:AgADBQADMagxG0NP2FZTaRCTz7DpBXU91jIABGgBwkTX26uYQFICAAEC@telegram)
Porn for you @licson
[photo](media:AgADBQADMqgxG0NP2FappOgAAcbGghu0M9UyAATFuuLsoS_VxgdWAgABAg@telegram)
另一邊部7301 cpu 爆炸了
Old as hell
🙃
係咪佢有 peer flap
搞到係咁收 Table
然後其實隔離已經有人坐
原來我自己都影唔到咩型號
[photo](media:AgADBQADM6gxG0NP2Fba3gvMcJpS-Cig1jIABLmiE11-347HLtQAAgI@telegram)
Encrypt proc 用好高CPU
kill左佢囉
對不對
Cisco唔係kill的, 停左個服務就得.
而家有個大陸既「官二代」睇緊,佢network人黎的,好地地有老豆唔靠要靠自己
咁咪好囉
梗係做富二代好, 可以車死人, 講我爸是李剛.
[sticker](media:AAQFABM05r0yAAQJeNmRPDVGzqcQAAIC@telegram)
幾時關照下我地
True
棺二代未必有料到丫嘛
錢先皇道
部機有冇 SSH / HTTPS 嗰啲 expose 咗
應該無
我記得 7300 係好似冇乜 VPN 嗰啲 fancy 野
其實買左ASR1001x ,未得閒攪
真係有錢 🙃
個部的 Encrypt performance 好正
有VPN,但如果無買hardware module, 就會用CPU來處理3DES,就會高loading
果個年代嘅 Cisco 仲係單核心緊
係衰啲
ASR 嗰啲已經開始多核心 CPU
呢個年代重有人用des?
[photo](media:AgADBQADN6gxG0NP2FYq7Zi-WVn5wtSm1jIABDy0TAJKMy2yuNMAAgI@telegram)
痴撚線國家
想偷agentcc個鑽
想偷 PCCW 部 ASR9010 ☺
想偷條10G
[photo](media:AgADBQADOKgxG0NP2Fa-VQIEx0_fygQu1TIABA4__SzS4J53210CAAEC@telegram)
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點解唔用hkt
呢個平
而且 Latency 唔錯
0.3ms Mega-i to TMHK
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幫下人先
有興趣既話 去下啦
我隨身帶住的😡
危險武器
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隨時帶著個鑽同埋鑽頭
無鑽點痾屎
當然有
上次就係個寬頻佬幫我搞
個喼比平時嗰啲大啲
good workshop
@AustinLeung go to learn git
佢個毒龍鑽
加個頭就變震蛋
加粒震子上去
寬頻佬就是你
哩個sita係咪我識果個sita?
it狗果個
痾屎無冷氣熱死,下次要帶埋冷氣去裝
此冷氣由18deny提供
[photo](media:AgADBQADPqgxG0NP2FZ7CTARkfSoD_E91jIABKnxNeI4-4u2x0sCAAEC@telegram)
比南方電信影響到我行程,要去一些正常人的餐廳冷靜一下
費事再努氣
作為一個專業IT,隨身帶個電鑽係身,係好平常
佢地一開始用晒差既設備,而家客量多,好多問題,一下根本解決不了
一個月死幾次
我原本要上火車,取消了
煩過閪
[photo](media:AgADBQADP6gxG0NP2Fb8e86hdj7iUQKd1jIABCtPC97jLGLPRdMAAgI@telegram)
本谷第1000幅圖
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早知道上火車唔理佢
未食呀⋯⋯
點左煮緊都要埋單走,屌佢老母
點解 poly 冇 google drive 咁垃圾
[photo](media:AgADBQADQqgxG0NP2FY7URfCnrNVhAqs1jIABD4PQm8ONg9cb9IAAgI@telegram)
個侍應幫我入廚房將我2個餸打包好,係我埋完單前比我拿走,呢D先係急客人所急,真正既服務
👍
逼你用m$嘅1TB
一分錢 一分貨,南方死Network,我早知會煩,所以搵間服務好既餐廳免得會發生更多麻煩事
自己整個dns block 廣告 應該要點入手?個原理係咪download 個ad domain list 去/etc/hosts, 將呢d domain 全部指去自己的web server?
for dnsmasq
curl -s "http://pgl.yoyo.org/adservers/serverlist.php?hostformat=nohtml&showintro=0&mimetype=plaintext" \
| sed 's;^\(.*\)$;address=/\1/0.0.0.0;' >> $FILE
\(.*\)$;address=/\1/
for websites outside china is good enough to me
I added these though
address=/2mdn.net/0.0.0.0
address=/360yield.com/0.0.0.0
address=/adgrx.com/0.0.0.0
address=/adnxs.com/0.0.0.0
address=/ads.yahoo.com/0.0.0.0
address=/adsrvr.com/0.0.0.0
address=/adsymptotic.com/0.0.0.0
address=/advertising.com/0.0.0.0
address=/adzerk.net/0.0.0.0
address=/afy11.com/0.0.0.0
address=/amazon-adsystem.com/0.0.0.0
address=/analytics.twitter.com/0.0.0.0
address=/atdmt.com/0.0.0.0
address=/bkrtx.com/0.0.0.0
address=/bluekai.com/0.0.0.0
address=/casalemedia.com/0.0.0.0
address=/chango.com/0.0.0.0
address=/chartbeat.com/0.0.0.0
address=/chartbeat.net/0.0.0.0
address=/connexity.net/0.0.0.0
address=/criteo.com/0.0.0.0
address=/crm4d.com/0.0.0.0
address=/datvantage.com/0.0.0.0
address=/doubleclick.net/0.0.0.0
address=/doubleverify.com/0.0.0.0
address=/easydmp.net/0.0.0.0
address=/eqads.com/0.0.0.0
address=/eyereturn.com/0.0.0.0
address=/google-analytics.com/0.0.0.0
address=/googleadservices.com/0.0.0.0
address=/googlesyndication.com/0.0.0.0
address=/googletagmanager.com/0.0.0.0
address=/googletagservices.com/0.0.0.0
address=/hs-analytics/0.0.0.0
address=/imrworldwide.com/0.0.0.0
address=/indexww.com/0.0.0.0
address=/inspectlet.com/0.0.0.0
address=/kinja-static.com/0.0.0.0
address=/krxd.com/0.0.0.0
address=/krxd.net/0.0.0.0
address=/kxcdn.com/0.0.0.0
address=/liverail.com/0.0.0.0
address=/lkqd.com/0.0.0.0
address=/marketo.com/0.0.0.0
address=/mathtag.com/0.0.0.0
address=/mktoresp.com/0.0.0.0
address=/mythings.com/0.0.0.0
address=/openx.net/0.0.0.0
address=/optimizely.com/0.0.0.0
address=/outbrain.com/0.0.0.0
address=/parsely.com/0.0.0.0
address=/perfectmarket.com/0.0.0.0
address=/pubmatic.com/0.0.0.0
address=/quantserve.com/0.0.0.0
address=/rfihub.com/0.0.0.0
address=/scorecardresearch.com/0.0.0.0
address=/sharethis.com/0.0.0.0
address=/simplereach.com/0.0.0.0
address=/simpli.fi/0.0.0.0
address=/sitescout.com/0.0.0.0
address=/skimresources.com/0.0.0.0
address=/smartadserver.com/0.0.0.0
address=/solution.weborama.fr/0.0.0.0
address=/sumome.com/0.0.0.0
address=/taboola.com/0.0.0.0
address=/turn.com/0.0.0.0
咁其實駛唔駛係0.0.0.0開番個webserver serve個1x1 GIF?
唔使, 奕都(好似係)開唔到
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等到天荒地老
30000條record
Your PC sucks 😆
正常
邊個飲醉酒drop 左你個db?
我呢d普通架咋
唔係
我由foxpro轉做MySQL
foxpro……
因為foxpro出唔到某d中文字
Foxpro 以前讀CIT用過😂
叔叔公司一開張係用foxpro
咁而家時代變
用左vb幫佢寫左嗰新既client
轉 postgre
但係d data仲係call緊.dbf
所以想轉
有咩好?
冇所謂啦(
其實同MySQL有咩分別
其實仲有隻叫 Pervasive SQL
我唔知咩Oracle sql m$sql mysql個d有咩分別
NexusDB
叔幹
innodb 好蛋痛
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幹乜撚
幹你就有份
innodb select count(1) 係 O(N)
.
🤔🤔
try it yourself
drop table if exists value;
create table value (
  id int primary key auto_increment,
  val int not null,
  index (val)
);

-- insert 10,192,056 rows 
-- no index (42sec)
-- with index (53sec)
insert into value(val) values (1),(2),(3),(4),(5),(6),(7);
insert into value(val) select (2*b.val + a.val) mod 3 as val from value as a, value b;
insert into value(val) select (2*b.val + a.val) mod 3 as val from value as a, value b;
insert into value(val) select (2*b.val + a.val) mod 3 as val from value as a, value b;

-- first time slow, second time faster
select count(1) from value;
select count(1) from value;

-- first time slow, second time faster
select val, count(1) from value group by val;
select val, count(1) from value group by val;

-- slow after insertion or deletion
insert into value(val) values (-1);
select count(1) from value;
delete from value where valu = -1;
select count(1) from value;

-- or first time after update 1 row
update value set val = (val+1) mod 3 where id = 100;
select val, count(1) from value group by val;
select count(1) from value;
每樣野有咩好處?
Mysql 個 execution planner 又係蛋痛
咩黎架
我淨係識當佢係一個db用
你講呢啲 @AustinLeung 聽唔明架
我真係唔明
.
唔緊要我都唔明
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SQL 用法同埋個 Engine 個行爲有份別
@zyx00xyz 叫你用 Postgres 係因為佢相對來講穩定
點解你成日要痾屎
其實我唔係每秒10幾萬條record上落
可能10幾分鐘先有一條query
Programmer 嘅堅持你識啲乜嘢(
Mysql 去到唔知 10.1 定 10.2 先至唔 silent accept invalid value (strict mode) e.g. silently truncating strings that are too long, silently adjusting numeric values that are out of range ...
mysql 有好似 backward compatible bugs/features...
utf8mb4 係 mysql 獨有。
哩個又係乜東東
我見我create database區自動揀左哩個
係咪姐係我應該要揀返utf8
utf8mb4 = can support emoji
without mb4 = NO
未必
唔要emoji
utf8 個個都知係用 1至4 個 bytes。但唔知邊個天才係mysql 到做覺得support 到 3 個 bytes 就夠...
then you still need to check the unicode range
or else it will simply become garbage
我淨係要所有香港字support到就得
Unicode 嘅表意字形有 A-F 區
咁你咪要 mb4
有utf8基本上夠做
淨係擴展 A-B 區都有機會要 4 個 byte
oh
擴展 C-F 區嘅中文字
已經要四個位
根住後黎要 backward compatible 就加多左個叫 utf8mb4.
仲要max index key length得768bytes/1000bytes
結果varchar上限191個
^^
喂 唔好喺度講咁多 MySQL 啦……
謂-.-知
yup
PostgreSQL
collate utf8mb4_Unicode_520_ci同utf8mb4_Unicode_ci有咩分別?
@AustinLeung 佢明就好
just use unicode_ci
唔好太 extended
or general_ci
general_ci does not support really support extended western characters sorting
unicode_ci does and maybe slower, but difference can be ignored
thanks all
overengineering
係吖
人類總是要 ...
你係咪推NoSQL
要不是你每秒有10萬條record
…… 我無特別推 nosql
咁做乜唔比人推MySQL
只不過咁啱我用咗 MongoDB 放我個幾百萬樣野
唔代表我係 MongoDB Fanboy
我真係唔明呀
你講啦
冇嘢,Overengineering 啫
Programmer 通病
姐係咩阿
我好想知呀
講啦
你繼續用 MySQL 冇問題嘅
User Guide [Programmer Edition]
意思就係 Programmer 成日會為未來打算
會預多啲野
結果現實用唔到預多咗嗰啲嘢
就叫 Overengineering
agger
MySQL 有啲行爲係唔好嘅,例如佢會靜靜地解決你哋 Input 錯咗嘅問題
係 Programmer 眼中唔係好鍾意啲 Program 明明有錯收埋
e.g. MySQL VARCHAR 如果入個長過當初指定長度嘅野,會話比你聽 Query success 但係多咗出嚟嗰啲字會全部唔見曬
媽咪有正菜收埋唔益你,你都嬲啦
人mark鐘我mark鐘,大家一樣價錢,點解我條女個質素差咁多
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我個 MongoDB 其實 Read 為主
Write 得一隻 Bot 寫 message
但係睇 Log 嗰陣會一次過同個 Database 成千上萬條 Message 咁攞
即係你個收風Bot?
係吖
成日係度偷data果隻
點解你多我一粒魚蛋
尤其是 Load 相要叫 GridFS 嗰陣
我唔要你比條大胸既女我,我要你拎走佢個胸
大家都篤tablet
咁就公平叮
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我係鍾意玩tablet,我要佢陪我一齊玩
MongoDB 一個 Document size 16MB 但係 Telegram 啲附件最大可以去到 20MB+
所以有陣事啲野可能會分開咗兩份以上
咁就公平喇
https://mlog.licson.net/channel/-1001033293696@tg/2018-03-10

呢版成 4400 條 Message,嗰日幾十個人都睇緊我呢頁野
咁你諗吓我個 DB 係咪要承受好多 Read
點解咁多人睇呢個log?
你係咪會賣log比中共
我個 Log 成爲咗臺灣各大 Conference 嘅御用 IRC Log Page……
所以
只要有活動就會有人睇
不過目前呢個係免費服務
可以考慮做個收費制出嚟(
京驚
Big Licson is watching u
個頁做咗好多優化
因為啲 HTML 好長
所以正常 Template engine 會 buffer 先輸出就會令人覺得 load 好慢
改做 Progressive Rendering
出咗個網頁框架先 啲 Message 再慢慢係個 DB 行 stream 出嚟
我想問下MySQL係咪要set完index先俾你set fk
佢係咁話set唔到fk因為無index
但係明明之前學嘅時侯無呢樣野
咁姐係點
呀其實我都唔肯定因為果時個FK我用entity framework set
無自己打sql
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都合理 唔index左個column要搵fk果時咪慢
係咪淨係index咗pk就可以
應該係你邊個FK 就要create個index
例如我pk a同埋b
fk b
咁係咪index b就得
Primary好似會自己index?
um
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我唔明錯咩
Create table唔打sql
唔識
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點解細階serial會屌我
但係大階唔會
關鍵字?
GUI
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因為唔用得複雜 gui夠用了
之前個學校project最複雜 但係個table我用entity framework code first 自動gen
所以都係無用到sql
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